An Interview With In The Labyrinth's Peter
Lindahl
Interview by Andrew
Holborne
I
became aware of In
The Labyrinth
(ITL) through Richard Stockwell at Cranium Records in New Zealand. The
main composer and multi-instrumentalist with ITL is Peter Lindahl, from
Sweden. I played ITL frequently on my radio show (now called “Third
Ear”) in Australia and found that the freshness of the compositions
stood up to repeated listening. I contacted Peter Lindahl to tell him
that I really appreciated his music. After chatting together over the
net for some time, Peter and I decided to do an ‘email interview’ for
“Third Ear.”
I’d
like to thank Peter
for the huge amount of time he
devoted in providing me with detailed and frank answers. Peter did this
to assist me in presenting a special about ITL for a radio station run
by volunteers servicing only 40,000 people. But his answers were so
interesting, that I thought they would be worth sharing with the larger
prog community. Here’s an edited text of that interview.
~ Andrew Holborn
Part 1:
Andrew Holborn:
Peter, Let’s talk
first about a few tracks from the three In The Labyrinth CDs. On The
Garden Of Mysteries, "Trans Turkish Express" just made me feel
like dancing with its mad, swirling rhythms, whereas "Moorish Waltz" is
one of your tracks that creates a really soft feeling in my heart.
Peter Lindahl: Hi
Andrew. First
I’ll have to thank you
for all
the interest you have shown in my band, In The Labyrinth, and me.
"Trans Turkish
Express" portrays
my visions of Turkey and
maybe my lust for traveling around in Asia. Like many of the
tracks on The Garden Of Mysteries, it evolved out of
having been just a
tag on another song. That’s how I often work. I like to be
spontaneous with my music, avoiding boundaries, getting stuck in genres
and being confined by what is right and what is wrong. There’s a lot of
coincidence with ITL. For me, it's very important that the soul should
be present in the creative process. I use my experience of course, but
I try to go by sheer intuition, letting styles come and go; likewise
themes, melodies and musical structures as a whole.
"Moorish Waltz"
would probably
have been my first pick of
The
Garden Of Mysteries. Like "Trans Turkish," it developed out of
another track. (They nearly always do!) I like to see what emerges when
things are mixed in an unexpected way. In India, for instance, you can
never know quite what to expect! Maybe I’m a mixed soul having been
brought up abroad and that is why I’m a world musician. I don’t really
feel at home anywhere. I just belong to the whole planet, which I love
with all my heart.
Back to "Moorish
Waltz," I should
briefly explain that
there
are certain South American elements in that one, mostly from the Andes
along side of the Oriental influences. Bo Hanson’s music also hugely
inspired me for that one.
AH: You
mentioned the
importance of soul and emotions in the compositional process. Peter,
can you tell me more about the way you compose your music and how you
and the other musos work together to create the final sound we hear on
your three CDs.
PL: The way I get
compositions
into my head is usually
just
from being inspired and having the time to experiment and express
myself in my studio. The rest is all very hard work, even if it’s
usually a lot of fun. Making a recording sound the way I want it and
imagine it takes a lot of effort from my side. Composing and arranging
is usually good fun, but production is less of a gamble and should be
dealt with very seriously to get the utmost quality out of a recording.
I love
interaction and all that
this word stands for,
both between precisely arranged parts or harmonies within a song
and on a more improvised level where musicians create things
together.
On our first
album The Garden Of
Mysteries, I
played most of the instruments myself with the occasional assistance of
fellow musicians such as Mikael Gejel, Stefan Ottman and Helena
Selander. Helena always did a great job with her high-pitched
harmonies. She has her own projects on the side, which is more
Western-world oriented.
Our second album Walking
On Clouds became less of a one man band thing though, as I
started to cooperate with Håkan Almkvist
at that stage and also decided to get in as many musicians as possible
into the production.
Next, our third
effort, Dryad made me return
a
bit
more to the solitary way of making music. For the next (could be?)
release, the long time project Samas Antaral, I will continue
that way, building on top of pieces of music that were recorded by
Stefan, Helena and several others plus myself way back in time. More
recently made recordings and some brand new ones will also be included.
AH: Two
of my favorite
tracks on Walking On Clouds are "Kali" and "The Caravan from
Sheeba."
PL: "Kali" was
first recorded
back in 1997. It was quite
different then and later on a lot of sampled instruments were swapped
for "real" ones. When I got around to showing Håkan the basic
track, he was really enthusiastic like I've seldom seen him before or
since, and it seemed to trigger him off to some of his most splendid
performances on bass, sitar, tabla and lead guitar. I still
really enjoy the things he put on to that track!
Another effort of
Håkan was
to refurnish the entire
album, changing the order of everything. My intention had long been to
place "The Caravan From Sheeba" first, but he wanted more vocals up
front so I agreed on that, thereby making "Kali" the initial track. The
mid-bars of the song were spoken by Stefan Ottman. The three
written verses that I had were otherwise sung by me, but here it felt
appropriate to have Stefan read out the lines like a narrator. He
did it really well, but perfectionist as I am, I asked him to do
it again after a year or so. I wanted him to make it more
fluent for the sake of the tranquility of the text. This
particular verse describes the huge grassy park of Calcutta in
India where fireflies twinkle and scintillate like little
stars in the calm of the night. All around and beyond that,
you can hear the wild, crazy traffic of the bustling city. I
wanted that to come out, the contrast between opposing elements
which so often prevails in India, especially up north.
Håkan made
a really fuzzy
guitar solo using his
E-bow
magnet instead of a plectrum and all his boxes connected in the
noisiest way ever. I added some sound effects at the end, trying to
combine them to create an image of big cites in India, though, in fact,
those were taken from both American archives and from several other
places not connected to India. Here you have traffic jams, kids pulling
carts, dogs in a wild chase, thunder, among other things.
I started writing
"The Caravan
From Sheeba" back in 1991
and
finished it in `99 with a lot of changes occurring along the way.
Initially it was intended for the cassette, which we released privately
here in Sweden in `94. The title of this was Mysteriernas
Trädgård, an exact translation of The Garden Of
Mysteries. Mikael Gejel and I wanted to close the cassette album
with "Sheeba" but I decided to put it aside to give it a better
destiny since I didn’t feel at ease with that early carnation of
ITL and was beginning to feel it was time for me to make an exit.
One thing that
worked wonderfully
from her first go at it
was
Helena Selander providing the section towards the end with her angelic
voice. This way it hopefully got a bit closer to Ennio Moricone´s
film scores and perhaps also those of Nino Rota. Also, my father
contributed to "Sheeba" by playing the cornet, a medieval wooden
trumpet at the very end. It’s mixed up with sampled brass to make for a
broader sound. I recall him nearly not making it because the
cornet is so hard to play.
There gradually
came a whole
lot of versions of
"Sheeba"
before it finally turned out the way I wanted it. There is one take
with the mellotron playing most of the lead and I remember trying a lot
of bell sounds that didn’t fit in all too well. On the final version
you can hear mandolins and (sampled) santoors taking the lead; at
times, oriental woodwind sections and occasionally viola da gambas and
(sampled) cellos. I remember having only one string on the gamba at the
time. I didn’t even tune it up to a normal pitch. But it seemed to work
anyhow.
AH:
"Nargal," on your
third CD Dryad, seems to me to break new ground musically.
There seems to be a stronger classical component to its structure. The
instruments you’ve used, like bells, create different textures to other
ITL tunes. Obviously, there’s a darker atmosphere in this composition,
too.
PL: "Nargal" is a
figure of great
evil in a saga written
by
Stefan Ottman and Mikael Gejel back in the eighties. This
fairytale is called Samas Antaral. The song is divided into
two parts, the first based on a riff that I made up sometime
around the mid eighties and the second deriving from a separate track
called "Gar Skuorras."
Stefan wanted a
classical element
(as he nearly always
does)
and at the same time, a brutal atmosphere verging on insanity. So we
hammered out a terrifying mid section on my keyboards using harsh
sounding (sampled) cellos and double bass strings. Later on, I doubled
these with viola da gambas and Håkan tripled parts of it with his
electric guitars.
One detail that
both Håkan
and Stefan tried to
get
me to alter while we were laying down the tracks was to exchange
the mandolins and santoors for a flute in a couple of bars where
everything loosens up a bit, since he reckoned these notes
should be played in legato and were more suited for a
wind
instrument. It didn’t work out too well though, so we scrapped that and
just had Helena pull off some of her longest notes ever! She had to do
it in two overlapping cuts to bind it all together.
One bloke who
participated among
the string sections was
Mikael Lövroth, a violinist with whom I virtually don’t have any
contact these days. He’s well imbedded inside the arrangements, just to
add a slightly more live feeling. It’s the same with my gamba. It’s
kept more or less in the background, except at the start where I
combined it with an electric guitar, which both together play the
melody.
One hassle with
"Nargal" was that
it was really hard to
get a
good bass line into it. First I used a synth bass, playing it very
mechanically, then Stefan and I worked out a complicated
and melodic bass line which I thought was lacking in rhythm and
temperament. So Håkan finally succeeded in making something
between the two of them using his electric bass.
One detail, which
you may find
interesting, Andrew, is
that
the classical section that introduces "Nargal" once used to be at the
end of the song. It was Stefan’s idea to switch it all around and I
admit having been very skeptical, mainly because I felt I wasn’t quite
up to the effort. It would be a timely and complicated
process, considering I did everything on
reel-to-reel tape at that
stage back in the mid nineties.
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